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  1. Great analysis! That helps explain ‘authority’ as part of the algorithm and not a subjective rank, and also the reasoning behind why to use internal links.

    Thanks.

  2. Calvin

    Hi Leo,

    If I understand you correctly, your idea is that links may not be weighted votes (where a link from a high authority page represents a stronger vote) but represent the probability of google finding your site/page for a certain keyword (so authority represents the increased chance of being found by google). So, instead of just building links to our own websites, we should spend part of our time building links to existing pages which link to us. In other words, if we increase the probability of google finding the page linking to us, we also increase the probability of google finding our page.

    On the practical level, I can think of one way to test this:
    1) Build two near-identical websites, A and B.
    2) Build 5 links to A – A1 to A5. Build 5 links to B.
    3) Build 5 links to A1, …, build 5 links to A5. Build 25 links to B.
    4) Repeat ad infinitum so that A’s link structure is a pyramid of ever increasing height, while B’s link structure becomes a wider and wider net.
    5) Check the results – does A rank better, or does B rank better? If A ranks better, there is a strong implication that the probability model is correct. Otherwise, the opposite (i.e. the vote model) is correct.

    Is my understanding even correct? Is my proposed experiment valid? Have you ever tested this yourself? Unfortunately, I’m too busy with my current activities to try it out myself.

    OTOH, I do have some niche sites that are in the doldrums. If I build new links to my existing links, i.e. build up the link structure for A, and my site revitalizes itself, that would be quite suggestive, don’t you think?

  3. Really interesting article Leo and not something I’ve thought about before so I really liked this point of view.

    I guess the only way to know for sure how links affect rankings is to do Calvin’s suggestion and all things being equal (but when are things ever that equal really?) it should show one way or another whether it’s number of links or number of times your site gets found that moves you in the SE’s.

    On a related note HubPages has just improved it’s internal linking structure where it suggests internal links from other hubs to place in your hubs (and you get a HubKarma score to obsess over too) – so it will be interesting to see how this affects hub rankings over the next few weeks in the serps.

  4. Leo

    @ Calvin,

    Actually what I’m saying is that while everyone says “link to authority sites” or “get a lot of links” with no explanation or rhyme to reason other than it improves rankings, I have been entertaining why does it improve rankings. Just a musing..that’s all.

  5. Leo

    @ John,

    Yeah, you can’t be subjective with link building. It is all math. And the funny thing is that a good majority of bloggers have this image of 1,000′s of google employees looking at website data to determine ranking. In actuality, most of it is “automated”.

  6. Leo

    @ Tracey,

    Thanks. I noticed that about hubpages as well. I have been interlinking hubs for months now. I use a system I created that works really well in terms of ranking sites. I may get into that at a later date.

  7. Ric

    Leo, a few questions please.

    1. Any comment about deep link pro?
    2. How much weight do you put on semantics and ontologies for content? (a fascinating subject, just started reading about this stuff).
    3. Commenting? Even though the link juice is minimal and could be nofollow, could the increase in traffic be enough for Google to up the rank of ones site just because of the traffic?

    It just makes sense that when everyone is piling on to the common methods of link building, then Google devalues them. What were left with is trying to find out what and where Google places value. Hubs still seems to have Googles trust and EZA to some degree does also.

    Your point about links being pushed to the back of the line is valid. Seems then that backlinking is a continuous process to stay ranked.

  8. Leo

    @ Ric

    Any comment about deep link pro?

    People don’t put much stock into directories. I do. They are considered “safe” by google and can help a virtually unknown NEW site with ranking out of the box. Of course, there are some criteria to consider that goes beyond pagerank- Is the site cached regularly? Does it provide deep links? Is it active? ect…ect….

    Deep link pro is nothing more than an automated system to “applying” for link inclusion in these directories. What separates it from other directory auto submission software is that Josh has found some directories that allow deep links (links that aren’t your home page). Josh knows what he is doing and I have yet to find one product from Josh that I was dissatisfied with.

    Of course, the bigger question is what your plans are and does deep link pro fit into your plans in a way that could improve your business. And that is something only you know….

    How much weight do you put on semantics and ontologies for content? (a fascinating subject, just started reading about this stuff).

    When it comes to semantics, I am really torn. While it makes sense, I have to wonder how “SMART” google’s algo really is in relation to semantics. For instance, it still can’t tell the difference between plural and singular even though if I was talking about “cars”, “car” should be almost as relevant, right? Obviously, if you are sticking to one market, your content would speak to your market and the language would come natural, ya know?

    Commenting? Even though the link juice is minimal and could be nofollow, could the increase in traffic be enough for Google to up the rank of ones site just because of the traffic?

    There are some marketers that rank organically solely from comment marketing. This goes for do-follow blogs as well as no-follow blogs. However, the downside is that they have to continue commenting to maintain their ranking. I think that this falls in line with my theory though (as you fall off the front page and further into the archives, the page is discovered less and less…)

    It just makes sense that when everyone is piling on to the common methods of link building, then Google devalues them. What were left with is trying to find out what and where Google places value. Hubs still seems to have Googles trust and EZA to some degree does also.

    I don’t necessarily think that google devalues links. I think that what makes parasitic hosts like EZA and Hubpages so powerful is the sheer amount of content that is produced daily AND the fact that the internal link structure is so focused (making following relevant links so easy for the search engines). Then again, that is my opinion on the matter and may be completely wrong.

    Your point about links being pushed to the back of the line is valid. Seems then that backlinking is a continuous process to stay ranked.

    Not really. Once you are ranking well, the links come naturally because more people are exposed to your content. The theory behind all this is that the reason why folks rank is because their pages are constantly indexed because of the volume of links that they have attained and the links of those linking to you get. Once again, this is the “new” frame of mind and may change.

  9. EB

    Leo, thanks for the interesting read. Regarding the internal linking structure, no doubt it is important. Even part of the algorithm Google uses when determining sitelinks (for authority sites) is based on proper internal linking. Now, you mentioned interlinking hubs on hubpages. I have always been wondering which is the best strategy. For example, is it better to link each new hub to the previous existing hubs, or to use the already indexed hubs for pushing up new hubs? Clearly, reciprocal linking is not the best solution, or maybe I am wrong? Looking forward to your future article(s) regarding internal linking, creating silos, etc.

  10. Leo

    @ EB

    I try not to overthink linking when it comes to internal links to be real honest. The rule I follow is that if it makes sense to link, I link. If it doesn’t, I don’t. I tend to not play around with reciprocal linking.

  11. Marcus

    Spot on, Leo.

    I have found that Hubpages inter-linking (as well as Squidoo) not only produces traffic but is enough to completely support rankings in less competitive niches. There are several where I only needed 2 hubs (interlinked and related) and 2 lens (interlinked and related) to get the site ranked on page 1 (top 5 slot in some cases) for my chosen keywords without any other links. This also the power of WordPress MU, and not enough marketers realize just how strong MU sites are.

  12. @ Marcus – interesting take on MU…are you suggesting a single user employment of MU where you link between faux “users” or…?

    @ Leo:

    Flipped my lid. Very thoughtfully produced take on linking strategies, I’m just diggin’ your gray matter. Thanks. <==still chewing on it

  13. Marcus

    @JamestheJust – You can find open MU networks via Google and create sites on them, or do as you mention, create your own and deploy multiple blogs each with their own author. The existing ones usually already have juice, so they usually work the best.

  14. Leo

    For those wondering how to find MU networks, it is just as simple as using a search operator…

    intext:”triple check” + inurl:”wp-signup.php”

    @ Marcus

    I have to agree with you about interlinking. People don’t understand it and are very shortsighted. If you enter a market and create 50 hubpages on the market, you are basically controlling the conversation within the HP community. And since hubpages randomly interlinks within the niche to other hubpages, since you are controlling the market, you are also benefiting the most from the juice. It is a complete no-brainer in my opinion….

  15. Joe

    Leo,

    I would like to thank you for providing a blog that provides informative and useful information. Its very refreshing to read a blog that challenges the normal way of thinking about SEO. Also nice to read someone that practices the principles they preach.

    Quick question:

    I know you focus on quality sites that have high quality content with strong external/internal linking structures. Just curious to know if the recent google “Mayday” update has had a positive or negative effect on your overall rankings/traffic. I personally have been hit extremely hard on some of my sites. The obvious reasoning behind this is because most of those sites were fairly thin with poor internal linking structures. Strange how some sites were hit while others weren’t. Interested to hear your take on the new updates.

    I look forward to your future posts :)

  16. Roland

    Great post Leo. I also judge in part the health of a link opportunity via the Google cache date, and the number of indexed pages. Its a great way to quickly analyze the overall well-being of any website in the eyes of Google.

    Isn’t funny how people get so put off about certain kinds of link opportunities? I have read countless times about how forum links, comment links, directory links, sidebar links, footer links, etc. etc. are “devalued” by Google in some way, and that you shouldn’t waste your time with these sorts of links. Yet people are obviously still ranking with the help of these links. It makes me almost want to agree with your theory that Google doesn’t ever devalue links at all.

    In my opinion this could be correct, as I don’t really have any solid evidence that supports how a link could be strengthened, or weakened by its position on the page, or via the “type” of site it comes from. I bet Google engineers laugh at all the nonsense people speculate about in regard to their algorithm, and I highly doubt that they even care about stupid things like too many sidebar links, too many directory links, etc. etc.

    The evidence speaks for itself. If you can get a link with the appropriate anchor text on a page that stays indexed, your rankings should improve, bottom-line. I’m wondering what your thoughts are about nofollow. I personally don’t like getting links with it, although I can almost guarantee that Google utilizes that data to some degree, as they have officially stated that they “do-follow/ crawl” those links.

  17. Leo

    @ Joe,

    What’s Mayday?…..

    Just kidding…to answer your question, no, they weren’t hit and I didn’t expect them to be hit.

  18. Leo

    @ Roland,

    I’m wondering what your thoughts are about nofollow. I personally don’t like getting links with it, although I can almost guarantee that Google utilizes that data to some degree, as they have officially stated that they “do-follow/ crawl” those links.

    I personally don’t worry too much about no follow/do follow criteria too much, especially if it is in a social setting like a blog. But you are right. A link from a no-follow website like wikipedia certainly helps with ranking…and once again, if that from the fact that wikipedia is so well connected, link wise that they are constantly indexed or is it the result of the authority that wikipedia has?…..just musing here.

  19. vlerian

    Sometime (read: ever time!) I’m just too lazy to do the internal linking.
    I use “similar posts” and “random posts” plugins/widget for wordpress.
    It will create additional links to the old posts.
    If you have more then 100 posts it will help you a lot (for internal link and bot revisiting purposes)
    Don’t forget the categories and tags

  20. vlerian

    Forgot to ask, how about sitemap, Leo?

  21. Thoufeeq

    Wow man, this really is magnificent. I just can’t even figure out how you ended up in so many comparisons and theories. And interestingly, all are proven to be TRUE. That’s all I wanted.

    Anyway 10 years of research worth something, na? And that’s what is getting refleectd in your information.
    Thanks for yet another informative post.

    Feels like am going to read the entire website content one by one :)

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