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  1. Jeff

    Linking your links definitely works… a rising tide floats all boats!

  2. Leo

    @ Jeff

    That is a really nice quote, man! To be honest, posts like this always have me holding my breath because I don’t know the reaction that it is going to cause my readers who are strictly SEO and prefer to “control” their inbound links by creating and brokering them themselves.

    And like I said, I have moments where I have to wonder what “good” I am doing by plastering meaningless crap across the search engines solely for the sake of money. Yeah, money is important. Yeah, it pays the bills and feeds my family. But sometimes I get so exasperated when I find that a good portion of my income comes from products that I wouldn’t personally vouch for if my name was attached. I know most won’t follow me here as they aren’t in the position I am in and are simply trying to get there at all costs.

    Another thing I have noticed and it may be a facade that I just want to believe, the marketers that are making the real money online don’t subscribe to what I consider the bottom feeders of the market…the ones that will sell shit just because the payouts are high and not because they believe in the products. And just to make sure that no one thinks I am being holier than thou in making this statement, I am clearly a part of that problem. Will it change? Maybe someday. But it can’t change tomorrow. I still need to feed my family. What a conundrum, right?

    After all, one of the niches I am in include crap products like “how to be taller”. Now anyone with a degree of intelligence will tell you that you can’t change your DNA and besides building back strength, there is no way to become taller, at least not significantly. And still, I promote it. Sheesh. There is a degree of guilt that falls on my head everytime I realize I sold yet another product that misleads others into believing that they can achieve something they can’t.

    A conscience and marketing is not a very good match, right? After all, I am in the business to sell things. Maybe I should keep my conscience to myself. Anyway, rant over. Next week, I will put my conscience back in my back pocket and talk about things that is much more useful than simply ranting on about the darker sides of marketing online.

  3. Hey Leo,
    This post really fleshed out this idea but it was actually a post a couple of months ago that really changed how I viewed the sites pointing at my money maker. You said to build the strength of your all your funnel properties up (you were talking about ones I own but it really is the same idea) then you can dominated the entire search page instead of just the top spot. What does it matter if one of your sites is #4 if you also own 1,2,3? That was brilliant and completely changed my view of supporting sites. Up until that time I just thought they were for links I never thought about using them as funnels.
    This post just takes it to the next step. Every link should be a funnel and if that is true you want as many people looking at your links as possible so you would strengthen the pages those links are on.
    This whole idea of building you funnel bigger and bigger is really mind boggling but it is really the long term strategy to follow.

  4. Jessie

    You can of course make good money by promoting things that are more solid that “how to be taller”. Now that I think about it, I am not that ashamed of what I am promoting but I still wouldn’t recommend most of it to family. What I would recommend to family (and I have…with no takers), is learning how to make money like we do online.

  5. Leo

    @Andy

    Yeah, I guess that there are only so many ways to say the same thing, right? I imagine it is also the reason why Griz doesn’t post that often. What is funny about that is Frank Kern mentioned this at one of his seminars too. He said that he killed his infomillionaire membership site because he had to figure out a way to creatively say the same thing over and over.

    The funny thing is that when it comes to really selling stuff online, once you figure out that you simply need to understand your market and their needs, find products that fulfill the needs of the market and then, the most important part of the equation……

    Find a way to get your message in front of your visitor….

    All the ebooks, videos, teleseminars in the make money world all focus on those three points. They twist it up, sure. But in the end, selling stuff online just depends on those 3 factors.

  6. Thanks for your great post, and most of all, thanks for being honnest.

    Really, what you say in your article and in your comment would’nt be endorsed by a lot of marketers who do exactly the same on their “money sites” and who critize that on their blog…

    What is valuable in your blog is that you also talk about some grey areas of the web-marketer’s experience, and that’s something nearly no one does.

    Hope you will find a way between the need of ethic and the need of paying the goddamn mortgage. ;-)

    All the best,
    Dushan, from Switzerland

  7. Thanks for the reply Leo,
    I was thinking today about how important it is to actually understand what the customer is looking for. What is the actual problem they are trying to solve because if there is no problem there can be no solution to sell. Your response to my last comment cemented that idea for me.
    It really does come down to the 3 factors you mention.

  8. Tim

    The last time (and first time) I googled ‘make money online’ was when I decided I wanted to see if I could make money online, and I found the keyword academy and signed up. Just saying ;-)

  9. Leo

    @ Tim

    Touché, man. Touché.

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