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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/link-building-strategies-going-from-the-top-down/comment-page-1/#comment-2146</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;preciate the comment.  Dunno anything about Jeff Johnson and his traffic strategy so I don&#039;t really know where we differ or are similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;preciate the comment.  Dunno anything about Jeff Johnson and his traffic strategy so I don&#8217;t really know where we differ or are similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/link-building-strategies-going-from-the-top-down/comment-page-1/#comment-2145</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Carl, Shot you an email....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Carl, Shot you an email&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith D Shrock</title>
		<link>http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/link-building-strategies-going-from-the-top-down/comment-page-1/#comment-2141</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith D Shrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Followed your long post from BetterNetworker.I&#039;m impressed -- you give more than SEO tactics for putting up a Wordpress Blog. You also go more into detail, the how and why, you tie sites together -- than Jeff Johnson does - in his free UnderGround Training.  

Thank You !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Followed your long post from BetterNetworker.I&#8217;m impressed &#8212; you give more than SEO tactics for putting up a Wordpress Blog. You also go more into detail, the how and why, you tie sites together &#8212; than Jeff Johnson does &#8211; in his free UnderGround Training.  </p>
<p>Thank You !</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/link-building-strategies-going-from-the-top-down/comment-page-1/#comment-2136</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found your site from Splork. Since your site asks for a comment here I go.

I was feeling a bit overwhelmed today about my intended marketing strategy and thinking seriously about using one of those backlink subscription services. I think you just talked me out of it. Back to doing things the hard and safe way. But man, writing enough quality guest posts is real work when you have a day job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found your site from Splork. Since your site asks for a comment here I go.</p>
<p>I was feeling a bit overwhelmed today about my intended marketing strategy and thinking seriously about using one of those backlink subscription services. I think you just talked me out of it. Back to doing things the hard and safe way. But man, writing enough quality guest posts is real work when you have a day job!</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/link-building-strategies-going-from-the-top-down/comment-page-1/#comment-2095</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ hann

You could use 2 strategies:  the first one would be to make complete niche sites that focus on the silos of your website.  This will take a while to rank normally simply because the top end of your silos (or keywords) will still be somewhat competitive.

You could also build pages on sites that already have some authority for some immediate benefit while you wait.  These can be web2.0 properties but you have to focus in on what&#039;s hot at the moment (squidoo was hot a year or so back...hubpages was hot 6 months ago...ezine articles almost always rank well out of the box) and direct these longer tails to your micro-niche (2nd tier) blogs which ultimately have a product you are selling or promoting adsense or whatever.

Using the second strategy will make you feel like you are building momentum because the effects can be felt within the first month.  If you don&#039;t mind waiting, focusing in on 2nd tier and your authority site is the way to go though.

That is only my opinion though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ hann</p>
<p>You could use 2 strategies:  the first one would be to make complete niche sites that focus on the silos of your website.  This will take a while to rank normally simply because the top end of your silos (or keywords) will still be somewhat competitive.</p>
<p>You could also build pages on sites that already have some authority for some immediate benefit while you wait.  These can be web2.0 properties but you have to focus in on what&#8217;s hot at the moment (squidoo was hot a year or so back&#8230;hubpages was hot 6 months ago&#8230;ezine articles almost always rank well out of the box) and direct these longer tails to your micro-niche (2nd tier) blogs which ultimately have a product you are selling or promoting adsense or whatever.</p>
<p>Using the second strategy will make you feel like you are building momentum because the effects can be felt within the first month.  If you don&#8217;t mind waiting, focusing in on 2nd tier and your authority site is the way to go though.</p>
<p>That is only my opinion though.</p>
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		<title>By: Hann</title>
		<link>http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/link-building-strategies-going-from-the-top-down/comment-page-1/#comment-2092</link>
		<dc:creator>Hann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Leo,

I&#039;ve read this post numerous times and I know the topic of the blog farm is very taboo to talk about, at least openly in MMO. I know Ben has made an extensive post about it at his blog but I&#039;m still trying to wrap my head around SEO. I&#039;m still in the process of going through your entire blog but I&#039;m learning a lot.

My focus is on building micro niche adsense sites that is based off the xfactor method that he has promoted as a WSO on the Warrior Forum. Essentially, he advocates targeting product niches like &#039;thick yoga mats&#039; then building a 5 pager around it while submitted articles to EZA to get it ranked for the target phrase.

I can say with 100% certainty that his methods work from personal experience as I&#039;m currently averaging about $30/day but I&#039;m working to get it at least over a hundred. But I feel the days of the ultra niche sites are slowly coming to an end as authority sites should be the main focus now.

With that said, I&#039;m only focusing on this method so that I can at least have a steady income until I can actually spend the time to fully build out authority sites. Please let me know if I have this correctly. So... let&#039;s say that I&#039;m building a micro niche site like thickyogamats .com or something.

I put up about 5 pages of content that focus on the main term and other related terms in the niche. Now.. I do understand that building the 2nd tier network can take some time to gain PR and rankings. So I might build out additional blogs that focus on the following terms:

kids yoga mat
cotton yoga mat
prana yoga mat
cheap yoga mats

Then, build these blogs out with maybe 5-15 posts of content while backlinking them with article submissions. Once they start to gain PR or rankings for their target phrase after a few months, then these can be considered very powerful links. So after that, these blogs then link back to the main money site.

Do I have that done right? Or... in the case of a micro niche site like thickyogamats .com, would you focus the 2nd tier blogs around super long tails that contain the seed phrase like &#039;extra thick yoga mats,&#039;buy thick yoga mats, &#039;how to use thick yoga mats,&#039; etc.?

Really loving your blog so far. You give a ton of useful information and for that I am really grateful. I&#039;ve have learned sooooo much from you, Grizzly and Ben in the last few months that everything is starting to click in place. Now... like you said, the missing ingredient is being able to create a worthy network of sites that can help increae rankings for the main website.

The problem with these ultra niche sites is finding those authority links can be hard since competitors usually don&#039;t give them out (unless you pay). So, I think I should start thinking long term while building out my network but I just want to make sure that I have it down correctly.

I apologize for the ultra long comment (look at what you and Griz did to me!!) but I would greatly appreciate any kind of feedback.

Hann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Leo,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read this post numerous times and I know the topic of the blog farm is very taboo to talk about, at least openly in MMO. I know Ben has made an extensive post about it at his blog but I&#8217;m still trying to wrap my head around SEO. I&#8217;m still in the process of going through your entire blog but I&#8217;m learning a lot.</p>
<p>My focus is on building micro niche adsense sites that is based off the xfactor method that he has promoted as a WSO on the Warrior Forum. Essentially, he advocates targeting product niches like &#8216;thick yoga mats&#8217; then building a 5 pager around it while submitted articles to EZA to get it ranked for the target phrase.</p>
<p>I can say with 100% certainty that his methods work from personal experience as I&#8217;m currently averaging about $30/day but I&#8217;m working to get it at least over a hundred. But I feel the days of the ultra niche sites are slowly coming to an end as authority sites should be the main focus now.</p>
<p>With that said, I&#8217;m only focusing on this method so that I can at least have a steady income until I can actually spend the time to fully build out authority sites. Please let me know if I have this correctly. So&#8230; let&#8217;s say that I&#8217;m building a micro niche site like thickyogamats .com or something.</p>
<p>I put up about 5 pages of content that focus on the main term and other related terms in the niche. Now.. I do understand that building the 2nd tier network can take some time to gain PR and rankings. So I might build out additional blogs that focus on the following terms:</p>
<p>kids yoga mat<br />
cotton yoga mat<br />
prana yoga mat<br />
cheap yoga mats</p>
<p>Then, build these blogs out with maybe 5-15 posts of content while backlinking them with article submissions. Once they start to gain PR or rankings for their target phrase after a few months, then these can be considered very powerful links. So after that, these blogs then link back to the main money site.</p>
<p>Do I have that done right? Or&#8230; in the case of a micro niche site like thickyogamats .com, would you focus the 2nd tier blogs around super long tails that contain the seed phrase like &#8216;extra thick yoga mats,&#8217;buy thick yoga mats, &#8216;how to use thick yoga mats,&#8217; etc.?</p>
<p>Really loving your blog so far. You give a ton of useful information and for that I am really grateful. I&#8217;ve have learned sooooo much from you, Grizzly and Ben in the last few months that everything is starting to click in place. Now&#8230; like you said, the missing ingredient is being able to create a worthy network of sites that can help increae rankings for the main website.</p>
<p>The problem with these ultra niche sites is finding those authority links can be hard since competitors usually don&#8217;t give them out (unless you pay). So, I think I should start thinking long term while building out my network but I just want to make sure that I have it down correctly.</p>
<p>I apologize for the ultra long comment (look at what you and Griz did to me!!) but I would greatly appreciate any kind of feedback.</p>
<p>Hann</p>
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		<title>By: Backlink Resource Guide&#8230;How to on getting backlinks that matter&#8230; &#124; Internet Marketing For the Rest of Us</title>
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		<dc:creator>Backlink Resource Guide&#8230;How to on getting backlinks that matter&#8230; &#124; Internet Marketing For the Rest of Us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are some link building strategies that you can use once you understand the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo,

I disagree with you slightly a linkwheel at least my understanding of it involves mostly forum profiles and such with very little content or parasite hosts with minimal quality content.

If you apply the mininet concept with quality content(like you talk about in your original post), it really isn&#039;t much different that what you were telling people to do.  

I don&#039;t think I would follow the link diagrams specific like to the book, ever site would look the same, but overall the concept seem golden.

I just have to go back and rebuild or modify my existing sites away from blogroll sitewide links to incontext links and I should be doing much better ranking wise again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo,</p>
<p>I disagree with you slightly a linkwheel at least my understanding of it involves mostly forum profiles and such with very little content or parasite hosts with minimal quality content.</p>
<p>If you apply the mininet concept with quality content(like you talk about in your original post), it really isn&#8217;t much different that what you were telling people to do.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I would follow the link diagrams specific like to the book, ever site would look the same, but overall the concept seem golden.</p>
<p>I just have to go back and rebuild or modify my existing sites away from blogroll sitewide links to incontext links and I should be doing much better ranking wise again.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/link-building-strategies-going-from-the-top-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1739</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a side note, this book is no longer available for sale or download.  However, I did find it online.  To get &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ojdl.com/Ebooks/seo-ebooks/revenge-of-the-mininet.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;revenge of the mininet&lt;/a&gt;, you can click here.  When you read this, you will notice some very big similarities between the link wheel and the mini net.  The reason why is because they are pretty much the same.  Creating a mini-net is fairly complicated because just like all link schemes, it relies heavily on deception but you will get a fairly clear look into the proper way to build and interlink websites.  This said, there are some things that have changed.

And don&#039;t blame me if I this link disappears.  I don&#039;t own it and don&#039;t know the owner.  I merely found it while looking for a viable link for those interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a side note, this book is no longer available for sale or download.  However, I did find it online.  To get <a href="http://www.ojdl.com/Ebooks/seo-ebooks/revenge-of-the-mininet.pdf" rel="nofollow">revenge of the mininet</a>, you can click here.  When you read this, you will notice some very big similarities between the link wheel and the mini net.  The reason why is because they are pretty much the same.  Creating a mini-net is fairly complicated because just like all link schemes, it relies heavily on deception but you will get a fairly clear look into the proper way to build and interlink websites.  This said, there are some things that have changed.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t blame me if I this link disappears.  I don&#8217;t own it and don&#8217;t know the owner.  I merely found it while looking for a viable link for those interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@ DerrickP&lt;/strong&gt;

Yeah, revenge of the mininet is a good book with some of its principles that work even today.   He had another book that was pretty good back then as well but the name escapes me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@ DerrickP</strong></p>
<p>Yeah, revenge of the mininet is a good book with some of its principles that work even today.   He had another book that was pretty good back then as well but the name escapes me.</p>
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