Comments on: Internet Marketing Update-The Move Went Well… http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/internet-marketing-update-the-move-went-well/ Real Marketing Strategies for the Virtual World Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:48:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Leo http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/internet-marketing-update-the-move-went-well/comment-page-1/#comment-1604 Leo Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:47:10 +0000 http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/?p=1293#comment-1604 As with anything, (and some will argue with me about this), you need volumes of traffic to make the REAL money online. If you are thinking that clickbank will get you rich with a little traffic, think again. Unless you have a list, you can expect conversion rates to be farely low in most niches. I am not poo-poohing affiliate marketing though....you just need to realize that both require essentially the same thing- targeted traffic looking for a solution to whatever problem they are having. As far as affiliate marketing goes, it has been my experience that being affiliated with real products online will make you more money than digital products. Once again, you have to make sure the traffic is targeted. Having a list to broadcast your offers always helps. As with anything, (and some will argue with me about this), you need volumes of traffic to make the REAL money online. If you are thinking that clickbank will get you rich with a little traffic, think again. Unless you have a list, you can expect conversion rates to be farely low in most niches. I am not poo-poohing affiliate marketing though….you just need to realize that both require essentially the same thing- targeted traffic looking for a solution to whatever problem they are having.

As far as affiliate marketing goes, it has been my experience that being affiliated with real products online will make you more money than digital products. Once again, you have to make sure the traffic is targeted. Having a list to broadcast your offers always helps.

]]> By: Gemini http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/internet-marketing-update-the-move-went-well/comment-page-1/#comment-1603 Gemini Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:51:55 +0000 http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/?p=1293#comment-1603 Hi Leo. first of all, thank you so much for your generosity to teach and guide people to the right direction of online marketing. i am learning so much. actually, i am in a dilemma right now whether to pursuit adsense or affiliate road. i can not make the right decision. i made money from adsense before. $1/day from my first blog which is #2 on serps right now. but, i decided to pull off my adsense bcz it seems like that topic may trigger anger to a fraction of visitors and.. you know what can happen to my adsense account. i substitute the monetization model right now into affiliate but no sales. thus, no money being made right now. i want to start from zero again but since i am not familiar so much with affiliate, in your opinion, with the same amount of work, which one is lucrative? affiliate or adsense? Hi Leo. first of all, thank you so much for your generosity to teach and guide people to the right direction of online marketing. i am learning so much.

actually, i am in a dilemma right now whether to pursuit adsense or affiliate road. i can not make the right decision. i made money from adsense before. $1/day from my first blog which is #2 on serps right now. but, i decided to pull off my adsense bcz it seems like that topic may trigger anger to a fraction of visitors and.. you know what can happen to my adsense account. i substitute the monetization model right now into affiliate but no sales. thus, no money being made right now.

i want to start from zero again but since i am not familiar so much with affiliate, in your opinion, with the same amount of work, which one is lucrative? affiliate or adsense?

]]> By: Leo http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/internet-marketing-update-the-move-went-well/comment-page-1/#comment-1601 Leo Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:33:41 +0000 http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/?p=1293#comment-1601 I totally agree. I think that natural link building is the way to go but for most who are in it solely for the buck, you have the issue to making something that is linkable......hmmmmm.....creating content that is worthy of a mention....now that is something novel, right?:) In regards to rapid link building, I have seen some of these sites that you mention. It is amazing how quickly someone can rank for things if you have the money or resources to do it. It is part of the reason why anyone serious should have a stable of domains and sites to pull from. In regards to MMO and promotion- I really don't need it. Frankly, most of the shit out there isn't worth it and is nothing better than a time sink for those who are trying to make money. To be real honest with you, I do most of my writing offline and don't get online as often as most would assume (I get on to upload documents and outsource stuff). In fact, most of my work day is spent offline. The internet really is boring place that wastes time when you get right down to it. write an article-->check email-->check fav forum-->check facebook-->play a game-->write another article-->ect...ect... Talk about a time sink. sheesh. I get more done by staying away. I totally agree. I think that natural link building is the way to go but for most who are in it solely for the buck, you have the issue to making something that is linkable……hmmmmm…..creating content that is worthy of a mention….now that is something novel, right?:)

In regards to rapid link building, I have seen some of these sites that you mention. It is amazing how quickly someone can rank for things if you have the money or resources to do it. It is part of the reason why anyone serious should have a stable of domains and sites to pull from.

In regards to MMO and promotion- I really don’t need it. Frankly, most of the shit out there isn’t worth it and is nothing better than a time sink for those who are trying to make money. To be real honest with you, I do most of my writing offline and don’t get online as often as most would assume (I get on to upload documents and outsource stuff). In fact, most of my work day is spent offline. The internet really is boring place that wastes time when you get right down to it.

write an article–>check email–>check fav forum–>check facebook–>play a game–>write another article–>ect…ect…

Talk about a time sink. sheesh. I get more done by staying away.

]]> By: BLOGERCISE http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/internet-marketing-update-the-move-went-well/comment-page-1/#comment-1600 BLOGERCISE Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:54:37 +0000 http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/?p=1293#comment-1600 I find that the sites of mine that do well are the ones that build links naturally. You can only build/request so many links yourself and you will never compete with a site that is doing this naturally (tens of links vs 1000s). For example, my employer's site has millions of back links. We put out a press release and it gets picked up by the agencies and the next day the main UK media sites will be linking back to us. All high PR and highly relevant. BTW, Well done for running the site without the need for promotion of "make money" courses/ads. I am getting more and more tired of this relentless pushing of courses to potentially vulnerable and desperate people by so called "gurus". The problem is that the people selling them genuinely think they are doing people a favour and see no issue with it - so I don't think it will go away any time soon. The adsense on my site does promote these - makes me think I should start blocking ads that are exploitative or just remove the ads completely! And finally, on the rapid link building issue, my employer launched a foreign EU based site not too long ago and we linked to it from our UK site and that of our American owner's sites. This new startup was PR6 and ranking high within a month despite many in the industry saying this was impossible. It's amazing what 80,000 PR6-10 links will do for you (even when not a single one was in the same language as the new site!). This is what us amateurs (ie my home personal projects) are competing with :( I find that the sites of mine that do well are the ones that build links naturally. You can only build/request so many links yourself and you will never compete with a site that is doing this naturally (tens of links vs 1000s).

For example, my employer’s site has millions of back links. We put out a press release and it gets picked up by the agencies and the next day the main UK media sites will be linking back to us. All high PR and highly relevant.

BTW, Well done for running the site without the need for promotion of “make money” courses/ads. I am getting more and more tired of this relentless pushing of courses to potentially vulnerable and desperate people by so called “gurus”. The problem is that the people selling them genuinely think they are doing people a favour and see no issue with it – so I don’t think it will go away any time soon. The adsense on my site does promote these – makes me think I should start blocking ads that are exploitative or just remove the ads completely!

And finally, on the rapid link building issue, my employer launched a foreign EU based site not too long ago and we linked to it from our UK site and that of our American owner’s sites. This new startup was PR6 and ranking high within a month despite many in the industry saying this was impossible. It’s amazing what 80,000 PR6-10 links will do for you (even when not a single one was in the same language as the new site!).

This is what us amateurs (ie my home personal projects) are competing with :(

]]> By: Leo http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/internet-marketing-update-the-move-went-well/comment-page-1/#comment-1599 Leo Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:28:51 +0000 http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/?p=1293#comment-1599 The only way you can tell what it does is to figure out what you article is ranking for and then blasting it to see what happens. That is the best I can advise. The only way you can tell what it does is to figure out what you article is ranking for and then blasting it to see what happens. That is the best I can advise.

]]> By: Freebies http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/internet-marketing-update-the-move-went-well/comment-page-1/#comment-1598 Freebies Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:12:43 +0000 http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/?p=1293#comment-1598 I don't know if you know. But what do you think of me blasting a new article (like 1 week old) on buzzle or ezine with xrunner? I don’t know if you know. But what do you think of me blasting a new article (like 1 week old) on buzzle or ezine with xrunner?

]]> By: Andy with online business opportunities http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/internet-marketing-update-the-move-went-well/comment-page-1/#comment-1589 Andy with online business opportunities Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:23:54 +0000 http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/?p=1293#comment-1589 Thanks Leo, I appreciate you input. I remember a post of Grizz's in which he said something like the guys with the real money making websites might be laying on the beach all day but they are busy buying links the whole time to keep them on top. Linking is definitely where it is at. That said, I think Court is leaning toward the large site idea now which does make sense because it does seem like Google is impressed with authority. Thanks Leo, I appreciate you input. I remember a post of Grizz’s in which he said something like the guys with the real money making websites might be laying on the beach all day but they are busy buying links the whole time to keep them on top. Linking is definitely where it is at.
That said, I think Court is leaning toward the large site idea now which does make sense because it does seem like Google is impressed with authority.

]]> By: Leo http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/internet-marketing-update-the-move-went-well/comment-page-1/#comment-1588 Leo Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:02:00 +0000 http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/?p=1293#comment-1588 Hey Andy...found you in my SPAM filter. In regards to UAW.....being trusted by google is important first and foremost. I think that Court doesn't even include UAW articles until a couple months down the way in his plan. That being said, the better way to go (although much more time intensive) is to simply negotiate with other webmasters in your niche for in text links. These are harder to come by but are far more valuable than the typical marketing strategies in which you create your own links. Just my opinion though but that is what works better. EZA is good but you start to get into the law of diminishing returns pretty quickly. Oh...and UAW is black hat and is nothing more than content spam in my opinion....not saying that I wouldn't do it though....we just need to call a spade a spade, right? Best use of time in regards to internet marketing....Write 1-2 posts a week and spend the rest of your time link hunting. I know that is vague but it is what it is. Of course the other option is to build a huge site. You will gain some authority without links just from the size of your site. Hey Andy…found you in my SPAM filter. In regards to UAW…..being trusted by google is important first and foremost. I think that Court doesn’t even include UAW articles until a couple months down the way in his plan. That being said, the better way to go (although much more time intensive) is to simply negotiate with other webmasters in your niche for in text links. These are harder to come by but are far more valuable than the typical marketing strategies in which you create your own links. Just my opinion though but that is what works better. EZA is good but you start to get into the law of diminishing returns pretty quickly.

Oh…and UAW is black hat and is nothing more than content spam in my opinion….not saying that I wouldn’t do it though….we just need to call a spade a spade, right?

Best use of time in regards to internet marketing….Write 1-2 posts a week and spend the rest of your time link hunting. I know that is vague but it is what it is. Of course the other option is to build a huge site. You will gain some authority without links just from the size of your site.

]]> By: Andy with online business opportunities http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/internet-marketing-update-the-move-went-well/comment-page-1/#comment-1587 Andy with online business opportunities Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:05:31 +0000 http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/?p=1293#comment-1587 Hey Leo nice to have you back and I am glad the new house is going well. Thanks for the answer above about affiliates. I am only adsense now but would like to move into affiliates soon. Also, I was wondering if it is worth it to do mass article submissions like UAW. This appears to me as black hat and I would think Google would know how to discount the vast majority of these links. With that said, would it be better to write three targeted Ezine Articles instead of three copies of the same article for UAW? I am trying to understand what would be the best use of my time and I really can't say I have seen much from using UAW but I really don't know. I enjoy your posts and I hope you decide to keep doing them because I always go away with new SEO ideas after reading you. Thanks. Hey Leo nice to have you back and I am glad the new house is going well. Thanks for the answer above about affiliates. I am only adsense now but would like to move into affiliates soon.
Also, I was wondering if it is worth it to do mass article submissions like UAW. This appears to me as black hat and I would think Google would know how to discount the vast majority of these links. With that said, would it be better to write three targeted Ezine Articles instead of three copies of the same article for UAW? I am trying to understand what would be the best use of my time and I really can’t say I have seen much from using UAW but I really don’t know.
I enjoy your posts and I hope you decide to keep doing them because I always go away with new SEO ideas after reading you.
Thanks.

]]> By: Leo http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/internet-marketing-update-the-move-went-well/comment-page-1/#comment-1586 Leo Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:30:59 +0000 http://leodimilo.com/internetmarketingblog/?p=1293#comment-1586 Yeah, I do <em>fairly</em> well with clickbank.....fairly being the keyword. The truth of the matter is that clickbank is typically where affiliates get their first taste of that type of marketing. I do much better with other affiliate programs that aren't solely digital. I don't care what anyone says. The majority of folks out there looking to buy something are more likely to purchase something real rather than an ebook (in most cases...excluding the mmo crowd). And while you will hear people throw around percentages for clickbank products, most of the evergreen products have terrible conversion rates. That isn't to say you can't make money with clickbank. You can. You just need a shitload of properties to make it work for you. I would encourage you to get a pepperjam account and see what else there is out there to promote if you don't already have one. Real products make for much easier sales. Yeah, I do fairly well with clickbank…..fairly being the keyword. The truth of the matter is that clickbank is typically where affiliates get their first taste of that type of marketing. I do much better with other affiliate programs that aren’t solely digital. I don’t care what anyone says. The majority of folks out there looking to buy something are more likely to purchase something real rather than an ebook (in most cases…excluding the mmo crowd).

And while you will hear people throw around percentages for clickbank products, most of the evergreen products have terrible conversion rates. That isn’t to say you can’t make money with clickbank. You can. You just need a shitload of properties to make it work for you.

I would encourage you to get a pepperjam account and see what else there is out there to promote if you don’t already have one. Real products make for much easier sales.

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